Are vaccines safe and effective?
According to my understanding, the reasons many citizens believe this "vaccines are safe and effective" slogan are the following:
1. There is no public AEFI (Adverse Events Following Immunization) data. There is no record of AEFI that public can scrutinize.
2. Censorship on Facebook, Youtube, Twitter etc., for anybody wanting to bring AEFI to light.
3. The claim that there is "no treatment" and vaccines are the only way. Media houses have even started calling them "life saving vaccines".
4. Vaccination centers are not informing people on the contents and possible adverse events of vaccines. As per their logic, the fact that somebody came asking for a vaccine goes to prove his informed consent.
"Nature" has published a paper as recently as 26th October, 2021, titled "Comprehensive investigations revealed consistent pathophysiological alterations after vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines". Those interested can access the paper here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3#Fig2
The paper is highly technical and not meant for lay persons. Hereby summarizing a few points (actually, quoting directly) from the paper:
1. The title of the paper itself is a CLEAR WARNING SIGNAL.
2. In the abstract, the authors recommend "...additional caution when vaccinating people with pre-existing clinical conditions, including diabetes, electrolyte imbalances, renal dysfunction, and coagulation disorders".
3. "The manner in which vaccination would mimic an infection has not been fully evaluated."
4. "By day 90, IgG positivity also reduced to 50%, indicating antibody production did not sustain for a long time."
5. ....."This might suggest that in the short-term (1 month) after vaccination, a person’s immune system is in a non-privileged state, and may require more protection."
6. "To our surprise, quite consistent increases in HbA1c levels were observed in healthy volunteers, .... Previous work has demonstrated that diabetic patients with uncontrolled blood glucose levels are more prone to develop severe forms of COVID-19."
7. "Serum potassium levels decreased significantly by days 28, 42, and 90 post the 1st inoculation, with one sample below the lower normal limit at day 42 (Fig. 2d, left panel). Similarly, serum sodium levels also decreased following vaccination (Fig. 2d, right panel), indicative of vaccine influences on electrolyte balance."
Some suggestions:
1. Show this paper to your Physician and seek his sincere suggestion if you are in need of vaccination, and if your current state of health allows you to withstand any of the above. Ask your physician if any of the vaccine contents poses any risk to you due to allergies or similar conditions.
2. Evaluate available treatment options. Talk to doctors, both who follow the WHO/AIIMS protocol and those who do NOT follow the same.
3. After gaining sufficient insights, take your own informed decision on the risk vs benefits of vaccine. more
1. There is no public AEFI (Adverse Events Following Immunization) data. There is no record of AEFI that public can scrutinize.
2. Censorship on Facebook, Youtube, Twitter etc., for anybody wanting to bring AEFI to light.
3. The claim that there is "no treatment" and vaccines are the only way. Media houses have even started calling them "life saving vaccines".
4. Vaccination centers are not informing people on the contents and possible adverse events of vaccines. As per their logic, the fact that somebody came asking for a vaccine goes to prove his informed consent.
"Nature" has published a paper as recently as 26th October, 2021, titled "Comprehensive investigations revealed consistent pathophysiological alterations after vaccination with COVID-19 vaccines". Those interested can access the paper here: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41421-021-00329-3#Fig2
The paper is highly technical and not meant for lay persons. Hereby summarizing a few points (actually, quoting directly) from the paper:
1. The title of the paper itself is a CLEAR WARNING SIGNAL.
2. In the abstract, the authors recommend "...additional caution when vaccinating people with pre-existing clinical conditions, including diabetes, electrolyte imbalances, renal dysfunction, and coagulation disorders".
3. "The manner in which vaccination would mimic an infection has not been fully evaluated."
4. "By day 90, IgG positivity also reduced to 50%, indicating antibody production did not sustain for a long time."
5. ....."This might suggest that in the short-term (1 month) after vaccination, a person’s immune system is in a non-privileged state, and may require more protection."
6. "To our surprise, quite consistent increases in HbA1c levels were observed in healthy volunteers, .... Previous work has demonstrated that diabetic patients with uncontrolled blood glucose levels are more prone to develop severe forms of COVID-19."
7. "Serum potassium levels decreased significantly by days 28, 42, and 90 post the 1st inoculation, with one sample below the lower normal limit at day 42 (Fig. 2d, left panel). Similarly, serum sodium levels also decreased following vaccination (Fig. 2d, right panel), indicative of vaccine influences on electrolyte balance."
Some suggestions:
1. Show this paper to your Physician and seek his sincere suggestion if you are in need of vaccination, and if your current state of health allows you to withstand any of the above. Ask your physician if any of the vaccine contents poses any risk to you due to allergies or similar conditions.
2. Evaluate available treatment options. Talk to doctors, both who follow the WHO/AIIMS protocol and those who do NOT follow the same.
3. After gaining sufficient insights, take your own informed decision on the risk vs benefits of vaccine. more
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Please do not discourage people from taking the vaccine. From the practical experiences of vaccinated people, there is some evidence or miracle that covid is being prevented or the effect is less. Otherwise, how would the numbers have drastically come down? more
Nov 07
Dear Sir, you are asking me NOT to post any information from RESEARCH PAPERS. Please note the following points:
1. Democracy thrives on diversity, debate and competition. When these are scuttled, you get a Dictatorship!!
2. Science thrives on Challenge. The moment a scientist proposes a Theory, he should be ready to defend it all his life and at no point in time can he be unwelcome to a challenge. Else, Science turns into Superstition!!
As a fellow citizen, I would request you to reflect on the above points.
Next, coming to your point of vaccines helping to reduce the infection, on what basis are you saying this? Research and Data lead us to a different conclusion: That Vaccines had NO impact.
Please read this report:
"Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 Countries and 2947 counties in the United States"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
As you may see the research covered 68 different Countries and all the 2947 Counties in USA.
What could be the reason to discount data from all over the world, including our own? more
1. Democracy thrives on diversity, debate and competition. When these are scuttled, you get a Dictatorship!!
2. Science thrives on Challenge. The moment a scientist proposes a Theory, he should be ready to defend it all his life and at no point in time can he be unwelcome to a challenge. Else, Science turns into Superstition!!
As a fellow citizen, I would request you to reflect on the above points.
Next, coming to your point of vaccines helping to reduce the infection, on what basis are you saying this? Research and Data lead us to a different conclusion: That Vaccines had NO impact.
Please read this report:
"Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 Countries and 2947 counties in the United States"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/
As you may see the research covered 68 different Countries and all the 2947 Counties in USA.
What could be the reason to discount data from all over the world, including our own? more
Nov 07
It should be assumed that no news is good news. Yes, I agree with you on no data. But it is the case across the globe. I don't think every other country will hide or under report. Also you should agree that no vaccine is 100% perfect which is the fact based on the past experience. I am of the view that the spread of the virus is contained mainly with the vaccine. So let's not spread your view lest vaccine hesitancy level will go up. more
Nov 06
AEFI data is not available for India. It IS available for USA, and is quite horrible. Those with technical background in this field can view it directly from VAERS here: https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html .
For those who do not have technical background in this field, may check OpenVAERS, here: https://openvaers.com/
"I am of the view that the spread of the virus is contained mainly with the vaccine. So let's not spread your view lest vaccine hesitancy level will go up." A couple of observations on your remark:
1. On what basis are you privileging your view over my view? :-) Note that I have NOT presented any of my views at all. I have quoted a research paper, straight forward QUOTATION. You are free to read the research paper yourself.
2. What is the basis for your view that the spread of the virus is contained by vaccine? Is there any such research paper? I never found any such paper/data, please share if you have any. NOTE: Please do not share news paper reports and statements of politicians / bureocrats. more
For those who do not have technical background in this field, may check OpenVAERS, here: https://openvaers.com/
"I am of the view that the spread of the virus is contained mainly with the vaccine. So let's not spread your view lest vaccine hesitancy level will go up." A couple of observations on your remark:
1. On what basis are you privileging your view over my view? :-) Note that I have NOT presented any of my views at all. I have quoted a research paper, straight forward QUOTATION. You are free to read the research paper yourself.
2. What is the basis for your view that the spread of the virus is contained by vaccine? Is there any such research paper? I never found any such paper/data, please share if you have any. NOTE: Please do not share news paper reports and statements of politicians / bureocrats. more
Nov 06
There is no alternative to vaccine to fight the spread of Covid-19. more
Nov 06
Mr Bondada is right on points 1 & 2 of his post dated 7th Nov. However, I believe there is yet no conclusive proof to say that vaccine is not effective in controlling the spread of Covid-19 virus. If that was to be so, WHO would have certainly stopped encouraging vaccination. I am neither an expert nor have inclination to go through all the research papers on the subject but I form my opinion on the basis of the result of vaccination in my own country. more
Nov 09
A large Epidemiological study was conducted across data from 68 Countries and all the 2947 Counties in USA. The study is titled, "Increases in COVID-19 are unrelated to levels of vaccination across 68 countries and 2947 counties in the United States". You may access the report here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8481107/ .
Quoting from the report: "The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines." more
Quoting from the report: "The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines." more
Nov 06
Like every allopathic medicine has side effects, no vaccine is 100% perfect which everyone must understand. It is clearly said all these covid vaccines are released for emergency usage only. That too, due to the great adverse impact of this virus. Again, this virus mutates rapidly by which scientists themselves are puzzled. But experience over last one year exhibits minimal or negligible side effects over majority of the public who are vaccinated. Hence we are in a situation to go with vaccines. more
Nov 06
"But experience over last one year exhibits minimal or negligible side effects over majority of the public who are vaccinated". Can you point me to the data please? In my post, I mentioned clearly that AEFI data is not available for India. I would never conclude "no data" as "good news". more
Nov 06
When we go to a doctor for some treatment, the doctor does not tell you the contents of medicine and then it is a sure shot cure. And a common citizen dies not scrutinize the effects of the medicine. This is after so many years of research on the medicines. Similar is the case with covid vaccine. Hopefully in the years to come there will be more information. more
Nov 06
It takes anywhere between 5 to 10 years to properly test a vaccine. They have NEVER been used in an "emergency" like this. There is absolutely zero experience rolling out a universal vaccination while a "pandemic" is raging.
With regard to medicines for regular ailments, they have been around for decades. They do print the composition, contraindications and adverse effects. Doctor is duty bound to clarify on the contraindications and adverse effects.
It is up to each individual if they want to take an informed decision or not. No mandates here :-) more
With regard to medicines for regular ailments, they have been around for decades. They do print the composition, contraindications and adverse effects. Doctor is duty bound to clarify on the contraindications and adverse effects.
It is up to each individual if they want to take an informed decision or not. No mandates here :-) more
Nov 06
